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Post by todddoyka on Nov 26, 2023 11:03:53 GMT -7
Saturday, i go out for my 1st day of deer season. i have my son and my brother to help the old cripple out . my brother was early to go out, while the two of us were late, 7:30 - 8:00ish. while i was going up to my ground blind, i seen two white-tails that were going away from me. i sit down in my blind and wait. all of a sudden, my phone vibrates and it is my brother. he seen a huge 8 pt and a doe that were going to my stand....early. oh well. 9:00 comes by and it's time to drink decaf tea (decaf coffee makes bad heartburn, decaf is good for my heart). 9:30ish, 6 doe comes by my stand about 40ish yards away. i have my TC Encore in a 23" MGM barrel in 444 Marlin with 280gr WFN GC and Reloder 7 going roughly 1947fps. i pick up and sight it on a doe and decided not to shoot. 10 - 15 minutes later, i can no longer see them. 10:00 it's time for decaf tea. while waiting for it to cool, 3 doe show up at about 35ish yards. it is 2 fawns and a yearling doe. not enuff meat to worry about, so i let them go. 10:30ish a doe shows up. i looked her over and she was to my standards so it was time to shoot her. it took me about 10 minutes to place a shot behind the shoulder. she was about 40ish yards and standing broadside when i took the shoot. after i shot, i could see blood coming out and the side that i shot her was covered in blood. she ran about 15ish yards and then gave up and died. a message was sent to my son and brother that i got one. my son came by about 15 minutes later and he dressed the doe, while i went for Polaris. my brother shows up and tells me i should have came early because of the huge 8pt. "oh well," i tell him, "next time." a 145 - 150 lbs doe, guesstimate
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Post by Bullshop on Nov 26, 2023 11:49:06 GMT -7
Perfect meat deer ! Good on you. My Dad used to say , " cant eat horns " I was kind of hoping you were using your 9.3x57 so Rob could see how well it performs on deer. I have only shot one deer with mine and just like your you couldn't ask for anything more or better.
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Post by grasshopper on Nov 26, 2023 12:05:45 GMT -7
He told me one with the 9.3x57 is next on his list! I can’t wait!
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Post by todddoyka on Nov 26, 2023 19:50:32 GMT -7
i shot 3 or 4 deer with the 9.3x57. all of them are DRT. i love the 275gr WFN GC and IMR4895. i guesstimate the 275gr is going 1800fps, i keep on forgetting my chronograph. 25 thru 50ish yards is where the deer's at. 0 yards is what run after the shot.
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Post by todddoyka on Dec 2, 2023 17:40:21 GMT -7
i got a 2nd doe thursday at 4:45pm with my Husqvarna m46 in 9.3x57. it was a whopping 15ish yards when the 275gr WFN GC and IMR4895 flattened her. i still have to chronograph the 9.3, but i think it should be 1800-1900fps. anway, she was shot behind the shoulder and it went out 2 ribs behind the other shoulder. the lungs were trashed and the boolit came out about 1 1/4" hole.
i didn't take a picture because it was dark when my son field dressed it. i figure she weighed about 190 - 200 lbs. she was big, old, dry doe that i seen in my backyard at nite. my son pulled fat off her in a 5 gallon bucket. other than the backstraps, she be made in straight deerburger, no pork or hamburger.
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Post by Bullshop on Dec 2, 2023 19:09:49 GMT -7
Thanks for the report Todd. I have seen deer hit about the same way and run 100 yards with the heart and lungs gone. Its pretty amazing when they just drop with that type of hit. Those heavy wide flat nose hard bullets are amazingly effective. I designed that bullet for hunting and seems to be a success.
My first attempt at designing a hunting bullet was in 35 caliber for the 35 Whelen. The first game to fall to that one was a big bull moose my son Tony shot with a 35 Whelen Ackley. I lasered the shot at 187 yards and that 270 grain bullet was starting out right at 2400 fps. Same results as your deer dropped in his tracks.
Next was in 375 caliber same design only bigger at 370 grain. Same type of performance. That is the bullet I used in a 375 Whelen starting out just under 2300 fps. That is the load that literally blew the horns off a big bull caribou with a broad side shoulder hit
The 9.3mm 275 grain bullet is the same design adjusted to caliber. All have given the same type of performance when loaded to 2200 to 2400 fps MV. You can pay a lot more for trick bullets but you cant get any better performance.
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Post by todddoyka on Dec 2, 2023 22:50:45 GMT -7
i should be thanking you for a boolit that just flattens deer. the 275gr is plodding along at 1800-1900fps and the recoil is mild, it is about on par with the 8x57 and 170gr semi SP going around 2500fps. my 444 with either a 280gr WFN GC or a 275gr Ranch Dog going around 1900-2000fps never does a DRT, 15 - 25 yards is about as far as the deer runs after the shot. i think the 9.3 boolits are magical or something!!!
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Post by Bullshop on Dec 3, 2023 8:44:19 GMT -7
Thats it for sure magical ! Or something.
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Post by grasshopper on Dec 4, 2023 10:14:36 GMT -7
What is the 9.3x57 equivalent to?
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Post by Bullshop on Dec 4, 2023 15:37:26 GMT -7
The 9.3x57 is to the 358 Win what the 9.3x62 is to the 35 Whelen. Ballistically speaking when each is loaded to the same type of pressures there is little difference other than bullet diameter and even those are close .358" and .366"
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