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Post by Junior on Jan 14, 2016 15:20:48 GMT -7
Im starting a fund to save up for my next rifle which is going to slowly get built over time to a rifle specifically for long range shooting. Rifle I want to start with is going to be a Howa 1500, and then modify it as I see fit. The problem is I have having trouble deciding between 7mm Remington Magnum or the 300 Winchester Magnum. I have a 308 that I shoot out to 600 quite a bit and have shot it out to 1000 a couple of times, but its a beater rifle and I try to keep shots with it under 400 yards. I also want something with enough smack to shoot a elk at 600-1000 yards. I'm kinda leaning towards the 7 mag since it is a shorter case, and won't burn as much powder as the 300, and also being a shorter case, I can cut down and belted mag cases I find and use them in the rifle so I can turn the necks to fit the chamber tighter.
So what do yall say? I know it really has nothing to do with cast bullets, but this is the only forum that I am on. |
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Post by todddoyka on Jan 14, 2016 17:46:37 GMT -7
i'm not a long range shooter. the longest shot i did was a doe at 365+/- yards. there was a groundhog that i shot at 476 yards. the doe was with a borrowed 270, the hawg was with my 22-250ai. i also don't like recoil!!! never had, never will. i did shoot a 460 weatherby mag once. only once! also i shot my buddies 338 rem ultra mag, only once! i have shot a 7 rem mag, it kicks kinda like my 30-06. i've never shot a 300 win mag tho. i'm not a fan of belted mags. never had, never will(didn't someone say that before!?  ). i try one of the rem ultra mags, either the 7mm or 300. they go around 200-300fps faster than the 7mm or 300 mags. just a thought. if ya don't, i'd go with the 7mm rem mag. |
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Post by Bullshop on Jan 14, 2016 18:04:47 GMT -7
Either caliber will have bullets with equally high BC so no real advantage to either one there. As you pointed out there may be an availability advantage with the shorter 7mm case.
Another thing that may not be an issue for you but was for me is that I thought the 7mm shoots easier. You take a bit more of a pounding with the 300 shooting the same BC bullets you will shoot in the 7mm.
Both are capable of superb accuracy so none hold advantage over the other in accuracy.
For me since I am getting older and more tender I would go with the 7mm. When I was closer to your age than to my current age I used a Rem 700 in 7 mag that shot my ammo extremely accurately so have a fondness for the cartridge. I have had 300s but never stayed with one long enough to become well acquainted with it likely because of the increased punishment of the bigger round
Something you should look at is twist rate required for the really high BC bullets you may want to use for really long range. I had a 300 Weatherby with a 1/10" twist and it would not stabilize the Sierra 250gn Match King. Look through some of the bullet suppliers info about their bullets and most will state the required minimum twist for their long VLD bullets.
BTW I like the HOWA action. If it was not a good action Weatherby would not put their name on it.
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Post by Junior on Jan 14, 2016 18:47:30 GMT -7
I like the one piece scope base that the Howa uses. I am planning on threading and putting a muzzle break on which ever one I get to help with shot spotting, so recoil shouldn't be too bad even with the 300. Everyone else I have asked about this says to get the 338 Lapula but I'm not looking to spend that much money on this project. The scope will probably be the most expensive part.
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Post by Bullshop on Jan 14, 2016 20:01:17 GMT -7
They are using the 300 to good effect in long range precision over in the sand box.
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Post by Junior on Jan 14, 2016 21:00:33 GMT -7
Another reason I am looking at the 7 mag, is for some reason is is $100 less then the 300 mag. Either one comes with a Nikko Sterling scope though which I will probably trade out for something a little better right off.
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). i try one of the rem ultra mags, either the 7mm or 300. they go around 200-300fps faster than the 7mm or 300 mags. 