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Post by Junior on Nov 6, 2020 1:04:42 GMT -7
What’s that you say? THREE new guns this week? Indeed, it has been a good week at Juniors world headquarters. The temp has been down in the -30s all week. Which has lead to a lot of working inside the house. During my “work” I came across 6 boxes of factory 250 savage ammo I had picked up somewhere. I remembered someone asking me awhile back if I knew where they could find some, so I gave them a call. He came over and took a look, and I told him to make me a offer. The offer you ask? He offered to trade me straight across for a Winchester 94 in 30/30. Of course, I was obligated to accept his offer since I have several boxes of 30/30 ammo, but no 30/30. The rifle must have been some kind of commemorative special run at some point. It has some cheesy engraving on the receiver and a golden loading gate. It does not appear to have been shot much, however some butt wipe in the past must have hammered some decorative pins into the forearm, and then removed them, leaving some unsightly holes in what was a very nice piece of wood. Hopefully it will warm up this weekend and I’ll be able to get out and sight it in. http://instagram.com/p/CHPdqtgp4eC |
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Post by Junior on Nov 6, 2020 1:32:05 GMT -7
Did a little reading up. Winchester called this the “Antique carbine” and this particular one was made in 1982. Such a shame that some stink brain had to go mangle the forearm. It really is a nice piece of wood.
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Post by missionary on Nov 6, 2020 6:19:47 GMT -7
One thing you can try is start rubbing linseed oil into the holes They may return to original
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Post by Bullshop on Nov 6, 2020 7:31:00 GMT -7
Also if the holes were pressed in not drilled steaming might improve the condition. It sure works good to raise out bad dents. Anything where the wood has been compressed but not removed.
To steam the wood lay a damp cloth on the area to be worked and keep going over it with a hot steam iron. Use the steam function on the iron. The wood has to get wet and hot. The steam penetrates the wood and the hot moistier swells the wood. The wood will absorb the hot moistier and begin to swell. It will tend to return to its original shape with continued steaming. I have removed some seriously ugly dents by steaming with this method.
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Post by Junior on Nov 6, 2020 13:41:42 GMT -7
I got a chance to fire it this morning before heading to Fairbanks. Drew myself a 2” square and set the target out about 40 yards. Grabbed the first box of ammo off the top of my stack, and learned I have about 4 boxes of factory 30/30 accelerator ammo. Put those back, and grabbed some hand loads that were loaded with some cast bullet.
I learned today that my eyes are starting to go down hill. I’ve never drawn a square bigger then 2”, but in the low light and snow, I had a terrible time making out the buck horn sights.
Fired off 7 rounds and surprisingly kept them all in the 2” square from about 40 yards, standing on my deck leaning on a post. Good enough for me.
I’m curious to do some testing comparing the 30/30 to 44 magnum from the carbines.
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Post by todddoyka on Nov 6, 2020 20:13:50 GMT -7
good shooting. i have a terrible time with my buck horns. i blame my eyes for that. i use a williams fp sight on my m94(1972) in 35/30-30. i also use a lyman aperture on my 98, redfield 102k on the 30-40, redfield on my 91 argentine mauser and i forget which gun has a aperture sight? when i use buck horns, they go about 50 yards on a 4" square/diamond and the groups are awful(3-4", 3-5 shots). when i use apertures it will go about 1-2" at 100 yards, 2" diamond, 3-5 shots.
i have to go to an eye dr.
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Post by Junior on Nov 6, 2020 22:35:45 GMT -7
I have peep sights on every rifle I own, unless it has a scope with the exception of my 22 rifle, and the only reason that one doesn’t have a peep on it, is because it has a metric grooved receiver and I haven’t found a sight that fits it just yet. Andy Larsson with skinner sights will make one that will fit for me at some point, and then that too will have a receiver sight.
Anyway. 25 yards is about as far as I usually shoot with my pistols or the 22 rifles if I’m shooting at paper, but I guess 40 was pushing it just a bit for the target and lighting conditions I had. My wife has been trying to get me to go have a eye exam for quite some time, but I haven’t done it yet.
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Post by missionary on Nov 7, 2020 5:21:31 GMT -7
The peep or tang sights have kept my eyes viable to 70.
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Post by Bullshop on Nov 7, 2020 8:26:05 GMT -7
I must go against the grain on this and say for GP hunting with iron sights I prefer the buckhorn type sight over the peep sight. I also must qualify that with as long as it is used in conjunction with a sourdough front sight with a copper inlay at its top. The reason for the preference is that the peep sight is set at a specific range so ranges nearer or particularly farther from its zero are more difficult. With my preference it is easier and faster to make range adjustments with the can on a post sighting system I spoke of in the thread ""Elmer's trick "" about revolver shooting. With some practice the amount of front post to hold above the rear notch for shots longer than your zero is fast and surprisingly accurate.
The reason for the copper inlay is visibility. The copper when clean shows up brightly even for old eyes. When it dulls in color just rub it a bit with a dish pad or about any mildly rough material and its brightness comes right back.
Now I can not deny that I can shoot tighter groups with a peep sight over a buckhorn as that is fact. What I can say is that for hunting the level of accuracy is relative to its need and for the practical range limits for field use of any iron sight there is not much range gain of one over the other. Yes the peep is more accurate but that is only applied to its zero range. Plus or minus to that zero range and you are guessing the correction just as with the buckhorn only with the open top buckhorn your target is more visible and has less clutter so much easier to track that target if it happens to be moving.
So there you go just one mans opinion which amounts to that if iron sights are being used I prefer a peep sight for target shooting but in the field for hunting I really like the buckhorn rear sight with the sourdough front sight with copper inlay. Bracing for impact !!!!
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Post by missionary on Nov 7, 2020 10:17:00 GMT -7
Hunting river bottoms and thick woods as we do the "peep" types are far faster for us on legal varmit types.
If I was to be able to use a rifle in ILL-nois we already have couple set up with real buckhorns. One is our 50-95 1876 (repro) and the other our 45-60 1876. They both are easily corn cruncher accurate and fast on target out to 200 yards for open fields. But again in the thicker stuff I will stick to peeps. Front sight on and let-er bark.
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Post by Junior on Nov 7, 2020 11:44:53 GMT -7
I would think that with a little improvising, a peep sight could almost be used like a BDC reticule on a scope, and quite accurately. Sight it in at a certain range , resting the bead on the bottom of the peep, and then figure out the ranges for the bead center, and top edge of the peep.
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Post by missionary on Nov 7, 2020 17:07:27 GMT -7
Yep that would work if you could remember to do so. The human eye naturally centers on that hole pulling the front sight to the middle.
I will have to play with that when we get north.
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