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Post by todddoyka on Jan 21, 2023 18:25:46 GMT -7
for a 22 CCM. brass will be hard to find. www.ebay.com/itm/225351451389its probably best that i don't have the money, i got my 30 and 357 Herrett that i have to make brass for.  |
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Post by Bullshop on Jan 22, 2023 8:30:48 GMT -7
Todd if you ever get to a place where the money and desire to have a 22 ccm converge I have a chamber reamer for the 22 ccm. Its really a simple matter to re-chamber a 22wmr (22 mag) to 22 ccm. I have done a couple contender barrels from 22 wmr to 22 ccm and they were superbly accurate. With the very small case volume and the powder burn rate best suited to the cartridge it doesn't take a long barrel to get top velocity for the cartridge. I found I could get very close to the same velocity in my 21" rifle barrel as in a 10" contender barrel.
The one unique gun I still have in 22 ccm is a very early old model Ruger single six that has been converted to center fire and the cylinder chambered for 22 ccm. It has what I believe to be original stag grips that have been on it for the life of the gun. Pretty neat gun and shoots good too.
As you have said though brass is a problem. I stashed away a good cash when they were available from Shroeder bullet works but they are now out of business. I have tried to make them but failed. Because I like the performance level of the cartridge and considering the brass problem I had MGM make me a rifle barrel for another cartridge with about exactly the same ballistic performance and nearly the same case volume the 22 squirrel. I have my Cooper rifle put away for one of my boys with all its accoutrements so dont shoot it but wanted something similar to shoot so went with the squirrel. With the 22 squirrel I have a cartridge that is the ballistic twin of the 22 Cooper but one that I can make brass for. The brass conversion from 22 hornet to 22 squirrel is simple and straight forward where as the 22 Cooper is quite complicated requiring a lathe for several operations and a heavy swage press.
I have been completely satisfied with the MGM barrel which is superbly accurate with its favorite loads which of course are with cast bullets.
Another incentive for going with the 22 squirrel is that I have been in possession of the forming and loading die set for more years than I can remember. It is and has been perhaps a bad habit of mine to pick up used die sets that just have a cool sounding name and maybe someday actually use them. Maybe a backwards way of going about getting a new gun but backwards often times seems to fit for me.
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Post by shootist---Gary on Jan 22, 2023 19:27:40 GMT -7
Daniel, I remember that when I visited with you a few years ago, you brought that Ruger out to compare the stag grips with the .44 Mag. 3 screw flattop that I had with me. I sold mine at a gun show a year ago, as I really never enjoyed shooting it & being that I still have an original Colt .44-40, and Uberti .45 Colt, then later bought a Cimarron (Uberti) .357 Mag., had no use for it. I then traded & sold all of my .44 Mag. ammo & brass for components for calibers that I still have use for. Now that I am 80 years old, I had better get to busting caps this summer, so that my wife won't have to try to figure out what to do with my hoard of firearm related stuff.
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Post by Bullshop on Jan 22, 2023 20:48:11 GMT -7
I remember your 44. I wanted it just for the grips. I remember they were about identical to mine. I have since learned a little about original Ruger stag grips. Some had the Ruger logo but some didnt. The ruger logo is the only way to be sure they are original but if it is lacking they still could be. Since ours were nearly identical I believe they are original Ruger grips.
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Post by todddoyka on Jan 23, 2023 12:23:50 GMT -7
my problem is finding brass. i have alot of '06, 30-30 and 44 spl brass. i have to look, but i used to 500+/- 222 rem brass. i don't where it is?! I haven't fired the 222 for years. i'd probably try to get new brass now.
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Post by shootist---Gary on Jan 23, 2023 13:34:06 GMT -7
Daniel, I had called Ruger to ask about the stag grips. The lady told me that my pistol was shipped from the factory in Oct. of 1958, & that stag grips were an option for a short time back then, but there was no record that mine came with them, but she said that it was possible that it did. The serial number of mine was: 13340. It had the fluted cylinder. I bought it in April, 1975 for $125, & sold it in Feb. 2022 for $550. I think it was worth more, but it paid for my new Cimarron "Uberti" S.A. 7 1/2" barrel .357 Mag., plus I got $110 cash, 500 cast, sized & lubed SWC bullets, 1 box of sized & primed .357 brass, 200 primers, sizing die & top punch, for my 40 rounds & 200 used brass Federal cases that I had no use for anymore.
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