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Post by Bullshop on Sept 2, 2022 13:57:35 GMT -7
We recently had a regular customer ask about some bullets for use in his 300 Weatherby rifle. He asked about a bore ride design that I thought would not be a good choice for the Weatherby cartridge. I though so because of the long free bored chamber designed into the Weatherby cartridge. He agreed stating he was aware of the chamber design and that His rifle did have the long throat.\
I suggested what I felt would be a better fit to the chamber an LBT 200gn LFN design. The LBT LFN design is what I would call a Loverin type design with long parallel sides of groove diameter for most of the bullets length. The LBT design however uses a very short ogive with a flat nose the blunt ogive intended to contact the rifling when chambered. This design gives good support for bore alignment even in very long chamber throats when seated out long enough to fit as the design was intended.
Anyway on with the purpose for this is that the customer wrote me today to tell me how pleased he was with the accuracy of the LBT bullet in his Weatherby rifle. Since I am sure that others besides myself being curious about his load I asked if he would share. His answer is below.
The load for the 300 Wby was: 33 grs 5744, Federal 210 primer and the 200 gr LBT bullet lubed/sized to .309 at 20 BHN which produced a group of .54 inches at 100 yds. Although I did not chronograph the load, I estimate the velocity to be approximately 1950 fps. Feel free to share. N.R.A.
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Post by missionary on Sept 3, 2022 2:37:50 GMT -7
Good Morning Dan
Thank you for posting this. Popped up a fond memory of my oldest Uncle.
My one uncle in SW Michigan was a 300 Weatherby caliber owner but in a Browning Rifle. Used it alot to blast Upper Peninsula whitetails yearly. Biggest Buck he ever got was with his 300 WBY at about 15 feet. Uncle Wally was crossing a ridge. Just as he was topping out the big buck was coming at him antlers down and well aimed. Uncle said he only had time to swing the barrel to the front and fire. Bullet struck the buck at the antler base. Both antlers were blow off. Buck minus the top of his head went down dead skidding to about 5 feet from Uncle's feet. Uncle did find both antlers and had a beautiful bruise where the rifle recoiled into his hip area.
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Post by Bullshop on Sept 3, 2022 6:32:13 GMT -7
So white tail dear are a north American dangerous game ! I once shot a white tail that was flying. I was following some fresh tracks that brought me to a creek. The creek was maybe 30 feet wide but shallow and rocky. As I was crossing I heard some noise a bit down stream to my right and as I turned I saw the nice buck start a big single leap that would bring him back to the side he came from. I think he knew I was on him and trying to loose me. I instinctively swung my rifle and fired when he was in mid air over the creek. It was a perfect shot that piled him up beside the creek. I was using a 35 Whelen Ackley with a 180 grain bullet that was designed for the 350 Rem mag so a very tough bullet. I remember the load was doing an honest 3000 fps MV. It must have packed quite a wallop because the deer did a flip in the air and piled up dead.
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Post by Bullshop on Sept 3, 2022 6:33:46 GMT -7
Oh I almost forgot I wanted to post what my customer first wrote to me before I asked about his load in the 300 WBY.
Dan, I tried the LBT 200 gr .309 in my 300 Wby today at 100 yds. 7 groups averaged 1.23 with a spread of 1 -1.5 inches. And another group was .54 inches!
Dan, I'm not sure the jacketed loads I have are going to do that well. Deep seating the cast bullets to close the bolt on the cartridge does not appear to affect accuracy. Just thought I'd give you some feed back, as I'm not sure how much info you receive from your customers. I am very happy with the results from the bullet you recommended. Thanks!😁 N.R.A.
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Post by missionary on Sept 3, 2022 11:04:39 GMT -7
That was good shooting ! Some would say "luck" but I defer to knowing alot of practice and experience make all the difference.
My wife and I were kayaking the North Fork in East ILL-nois on a nice sunny, warm summer morning. We normally see all sorts of critters in the water or on the banks.
On a straight flow area ahead on the west bank I saw in a sunny grassy spot a deer laying. Looked like it was taking a nap. So I told Vicky what I saw and that we would be very slow drifting to see how close we could get. We floated down the 35 yards slowly guiding to be on that side of the river. I chose to keep my kayak pointed straight at the deer which I could see already had a good looking rack. At about 10 yards I could see the buck had his eyes closed and breathing slow. His head was toward the top of the inclined bank and rear maybe 2 feet from the water. At 5 yards I thought I would let the kayak bump into the the bank. My plan was to extend the paddle and give Mr. Buck a gentle poke. Just as the kayak touched the bank I extended the paddle. At the same moment I saw the buck open his right side eye getting a good look at me sitting in the kayak. I figured the buck would take the easy escape route up the bank into the field. But not this time.
Mr Buck decided he was going into the river. So quick as a flash he was on his feet leaping and twisting around to leap over me in the kayak. He cleared me and the kayak with a good 3 feet of height. As he flew over I did lean back giving him all the room he needed. He landed in the river a good 6 feet past the end of the kayak promptly beginning to swim to the other side about 50 feet away.
Having survived the awkward wide-eyed wow moment I got the kayak turned about and we both gave Mr. Buck a kayak escort to the other bank where we parted company.
Happily Vicky was with to see it all....
I have seen corn crunchers from many different angles but never thought I would get a live close up from the belly side of a leaping deer.
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Post by shootist---Gary on Sept 3, 2022 21:32:15 GMT -7
Mike, your experience brought back a memory of my 2 close experiences involving white tail deer hunting here in Ohio. The first one happened during a very cold 12 degree winter day, while I was sitting on a high outcropping in a creek floodplain with my back to the wind, completely dressed in "hunter orange" heavy coat & bibs, with my T/C .50 cal. Hawken rifle. There was approx. 8 to 10" of snow on the ground. I heard a noise like crunching snow coming from directly behind me. Thinking that no other hunter would walk up behind me without whistling or saying something, I sat motionless, & 3 young deer calmly walked close enough on my left side, that I could have petted them. I shoot left handed, so my rifle was pointed the wrong way for me to get in position to shoot. They just walked single file down over the bank to the creek crossing, when they must have caught my scent in the wind, & took off at full speed up the woods on the hillside. They stopped at the top, silhouetted against the sky, but there are 3 houses by the road behind them, so, no shots. The other incident happened on the same property on the last day of muzzleloader season, only about 250 yards south, while sitting up on the top above where the creek flows thru a floodplain, probably 10 yards below where I was sitting. It was a nice day, no snow, temp. in the 40's, & as I had done a lot of walking, going down the hillside, crossing the creek, then climbing back up to sit along a fencerow, & back to the barnyard for lunch, earlier that day, I walked straight to this spot overlooking the creek & floodplain. After a while, I needed to drain my bladder, so I stood my rifle against an oak tree with the front sight in a crack in the bark, then moved to my left maybe 3 or 4 steps,beside a tree to shield me from the house. As I was doing my thing, suddenly, a few feet from me, a set of horns appeared from the edge of the ground. As the head showed above ground level, I stood motionless, until the 6 point buck looked down to see where he was walking. I took a sidestep towards my rifle, stopped, then when he looked down again, took another sidestep, that i could get my rifle in my hand, whereupon, he saw me move, raised his tail & took off thru the trees. I shot from the hip, & hit a tree beside him. Both of these incidents were "Kodak Moments" for me. End result, memories, but no venison in the freezer.
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Post by missionary on Sept 5, 2022 3:38:00 GMT -7
But the memories are the long lasting flavor in life. Just so you do not starve to death before.
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