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Post by shootist---Gary on Feb 19, 2019 9:26:33 GMT -7
I just received an email informing me that the 2019 Matthew Quigley Long Range Rifle Match will be held on Father's Day weekend--June 15 & 16, with Monday, June 17 to be used in case of a rain delay, to be able to conclude the match. The location is the Lee Ranch north of Forsyth, MT.
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Post by Hombre on Feb 19, 2019 17:05:50 GMT -7
Thanks for the heads up. Had checked a couple of days ago and nothing for 2019 posted yet. Now it is!!
I don't shoot at the event, rather offer the building of western/Quigley/other types of custom hats.
I use my old 1977 Merhow tan horse trailer as my hat shop.
Nice they've come up with the option being open for Monday to complete the match. The rain that hit late Friday
night and most of Saturday sure did a gooey number on that bentonite clay mixture! Slippery as axle grease!
With some of the folks that elected to be 'rained out' and leave Saturday, they had to use a farm tractor
with chains on to get them through some of the gooey mud. Another of life's many adventures!
When leaving out Monday morning, I made it within 23 feet of the gravel road before the truck and horse trailer
settled down n' got stuck (does not have 4x4)! Some helpful folks came to my rescue. Unhitched the horse
trailer and the 5 guys (nothing to do with that hamburger outfit!) that came over and my using the throttle,
were able to push the truck onto the gravel road. Then one of the guys with a 4x4 Ford pulled the horse
trailer onto the gravel road, I then hooked up again n' was on my way...
Of course the shooting aspect of the Match is grand, being able to see all of the different rifles being used
and the contestants themselves, some of which are most colorful! The variety of vendors is well worth
attending also. An enjoyable event overall . . .
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Post by shootist---Gary on Feb 19, 2019 17:30:59 GMT -7
Yes, Hombre, just being there has been exciting for me. I have been there the past 3 years, driving about 1,500 miles one way from the Toledo, Ohio area--25 miles west of Camp Perry. I've been adding lead to Mr. Lee's lead mine, mostly with intact lead bullets from my 1884 Trapdoor .45-70, but enjoying the experience & the comaderie of the shooters & vendors. Last year, I watched you make a hat with a hoof track for 1 of your customers. As for the rainy weather conditions, luckily for me, I took a pair of low hunting boots along. I was the one that suggested to Al on Friday while it was pouring down rain, & knowing that it was going to rain Saturday, about cutting the match in half, 4 shots per target, so we could all get to shoot all targets on Sunday. After leaving Sunday evening, I drove across Montana to Whitehall, then south to Dell to spend a big part of a day with Daniel. I very much enjoyed visiting with him, as he knows more about the shooting business than anyone that I have ever met, that I know of. I probably won't go back this year, (I would like to) as I would like to take a trip with my wife, out west, before the weather gets too hot for her. We usually travel in the spring & fall.
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Post by sideswipe on May 13, 2019 8:56:51 GMT -7
Would like to get back there again myself. Was there just once, 2013, spotting for a friend of mine. He is gone now, he also was a vendor there selling shooting sticks. Great group of people.
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Post by Bullshop on May 13, 2019 11:25:36 GMT -7
I just don't seem able to find the time to shoot the Quigley. I made it once and it was a great fun event but time and travel funding will likely keep me from going again. I will "LORD WILLING" attend the second annual Billy Dixon shoot this July 7. We have been working out sight settings and have from 800 to 1200 in but still 1500 eludes us.
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Post by missionary on May 14, 2019 3:06:39 GMT -7
1500 yards... well would not that be 1200 yard setting with a lot of Kentuck elevation. What-cha need is a pack of mounted hostiles out there and see which one get thumps. Then have someone set the rear up to that eye line.
But being sensible... I can see the issues. Awful hard to see the dust spurt from a round falling close to straight down.
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Post by Bullshop on May 14, 2019 6:24:31 GMT -7
1500 yards is just a mere 260 yards short of one mile, a long shot for any hand held gun. We do have the target set back from vertical a few degrees and at an angle does present more surface area to the bullets eye view as they re-enter the atmosphere.
I do not yet have a pack of mounted hostiles available so will use this opportunity to seek volunteers, any takers ? So far the job appears that no hazard pay will be needed.
Last weeks efforts had fish tailing light winds or powerful medicine favoring the hostiles. From the shooting position at 1200 yards the shifting winds from behind even though light acted like a forcefield around the target pushing bullets left, then right, then back left but never allowing them to fly true to aim. A steady single direction wind is ever so much easier to deal with. I think on that day back in 1874 Mr Dixon had some powerful medicine going on and if it were possible he should have considered playing the lottery that day!
I hope to at some point bring our Gibbs muzzle loader out there though with its very long barrel (sight radios) and only mid range rear sight height I am guessing about 800 yards to be max within sight adjustment range. Still hitting a target at 800 yards or anything past 100 yards with a ML would be a first for me.
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Post by missionary on May 14, 2019 18:46:53 GMT -7
Sounds like a fun front stuffer day.
How does a Gibbs stack up to a Parker Hale in long range work ? I understand this is an opinion question but I have never owned either one but Am thinking about the possibility.
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Post by shootist---Gary on May 14, 2019 18:58:05 GMT -7
I wonder if on that day at Adobe Walls, Tx, the wind was blowing like it does in Wyoming & Montana. I know that 4 years ago, upon getting to Forsyth & watching for a day, before I even got my old trapdoor out of the van, I was amazed how the wind blows constantly, & how much it moves those large caliber bullets. I was practicing on the buffalo at 805 yds., & adjusted my Buffington sight windage as far as it would go, & then still had to aim behind the tail to hit it in the head.
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Post by Bullshop on May 15, 2019 8:25:03 GMT -7
That's funny Gary! I noticed the year I shot there that each time there was a station change it was like a school test where everyone was peeking to see what the person next to them was dialing in for windage on their sight. The less experienced burned through their first few shots with no score before they finally got dialed in if at all. I used to think there was no substitute for experience in reading wind and making sight corrections but since that time technology has changed my mind. Today experience can be substituted with the use of lasers, weather stations, and computer programs all of which Billy Dixon refused to use.
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Post by Bullshop on May 16, 2019 6:38:08 GMT -7
Sounds like a fun front stuffer day. How does a Gibbs stack up to a Parker Hale in long range work ? I understand this is an opinion question but I have never owned either one but Am thinking about the possibility. I think all the different models quality built for long range shooting like the Parker Hale and the Whitworth are equal of about the same performance. As with cartridge guns much of the potential of the rifle is directly related to the quality of the sights mounted on it. Personally I didn't want a long range ML rifle that requires a special flat sided bullet. I wanted a rifle that uses a conventional round conical bullet of a common diameter. The Pedersoli Gibbs is referred to as a 451 Gibbs using essentially the same bullets as other 45 caliber fast twist rifles. Since very soft alloy or even pure lead is used for bullets in these guns it is possible to size down standard 45 caliber .458" cartridge type bullets for the Gibbs rifle. That makes for a wide selection of bullet designs available that will work in the Gibbs |
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