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Post by todddoyka on Dec 2, 2021 12:50:43 GMT -7
i went out deer hunting tuesday afternoon and i took my win m94 in 35/30(JES Reboring). it was windy(15-20mph, gusts 35mph) and around 33 degrees. i was sitting there for about two hours with an hour till dark. i go to myself, "ah. .), its windy and i'm tired of sitting there and i'm ready to gimp back down to my utv." i give it a lookaround and suddenly, downwind of me, comes a buck. i have earth scent and it works well, so i wasn't surprised the buck came there. i look it over and i go to myself, "it looks like 4pt and i don't have any meat......i'll wait till turns, then i'll shoot it." it turns, goes about 10 yards, then the buck stops. the buck is 50ish yrds, about broadside, so i take the shot. the buck jumps up and runs about 20ish yards and it stands there. but the buck stops behind a tree, only leaving his hindquaters in view. i put another "shell in the chamber" and wait. then there is a "sniffing" sound and the buck is blowing air(entrance and exit wound) out of the lungs. it must have taken me 5 minutes(only about 40-50 seconds) before he fell down and died. i gimp up to the 4pt and i see that the shot was high and behind the shoulder. that would explain why i heard the "sniffing" sound. the 200gr rcbs fn gc (thank you, Dan) with 20.0gr of 2400/tuft of dacron(1726fps) went thru the rib, thru both lungs, and went out thru a rib. i guess that made a 1 1/4 - 1 1/2" exit hole. i gutted it and and "tried" to drag it, i was like a one legged man in an butt kicking contest!!!! it was getting dark so i left it there, go home and call my brother to drag it out(he and the buck went 30 yards over 4 broken trees.) i guess that it 150-160lbs field dressed. i should have took some pictures, but i didn't. both antlers were around 1" base, goes up about 4 or 5" and the Ys off and ends and 9 or 10". i'm just glad that i got a deer, gimpyiness besides!!!!!!
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Post by Bullshop on Dec 2, 2021 14:07:43 GMT -7
Well done Sir! I am especially tickled to see that I was a small part of your success. Thats about the only way I get to hunt with the friendly folks on this forum. Good job Tod!
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Post by shootist---Gary on Dec 7, 2021 17:08:04 GMT -7
Gentlemen, & ladies too. My week didn't end as well. I didn't get to my hunting area in eastern Ohio until early afternoon on Monday. I drove back the farmer's lane, where I could watch the open harvested soybean fields & the woods to the east & west sides of it. After about an hour, 3 does came out of the woods about 500 yds. straight north of me. My Trapdoor was loaded with Daniel's 500 gr. original military .45-70 lead bullet, over 28 gr. of 4198 smokeless powder. Loading tables say 27 to 32 gr., so for safety, I kept to the lower side. I had not had a place to sight the rifle in any further than 100 yds., so didn't shoot. Wed., Thurs., & Fri, shot at 5 deer at ranges less than 75 yds., shooting over them. Sunday at 3:45 P.M., 2 does walked out in front of me at 25 or 30 yds. I aimed low, & again shot high. They ran across the field & stopped at approximately 175 yds., so I aimed at the front knee on a side shot. The gun cracked & the deer went down. As I was reloading, the deer got back up & trotted into a briar patch, then into the woods, without leaving any blood trail to follow. I spent over half an hour, but never found either tracks or blood. Could it be possible that I might have hit in a meaty area of the neck, that wouldn't bleed? It really bothered me that I never found it.
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Post by missionary on Dec 8, 2021 6:03:44 GMT -7
Good Morning Gary Thank you for posting this. Good read ! You'll get one ! Those 500's have always shot very high in our caliber .45 Trapdoors also. Just being there is a real prize. That one you hit may have been as you wrote or under the spine thus no blood but being knocked down. If my brain is working the manual told the infantry to aim at the belt buckle thus a hit would happen easily out to 200 yards plus some. Hunting was always another issue with Trapdoors. I do remember having to aim 2 feet + low to hit steel chickens at 50 yards On our 1884 we made a new much taller front blade and whittled it down so it was on at 100 yards with our load using a FN 450 grain. So far our 50-70's have been close enough that the higher blade is not needed. But then we only shoot the 450 grain caliber .515's in those.
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Post by shootist---Gary on Dec 8, 2021 7:34:32 GMT -7
Good morning to you also. I'm sorry that I can't recall your first name. Thanks for the reply. You are correct about aiming at the belt buckle, as that I read that the Buffington Sight minimum range with the 500 gr. bullet was / is 265 yards with it in the flat down position. At the Quigley BP Cartridge Match at Forsyth, MT, the sight settings are pretty much on target, if I do my part. One year, I hit the buffalo target at 805 yds. 5 out of 8 times, missing the first 3, then hitting 5 in a row, so the rifle will shoot. I also thought about going to a machine shop & getting a couple pieces of steel of the correct thickness, but a bit taller & then going to the conservation club 100 yd. range, equipped with a file & lots of ammo. Take care, & stay safe.
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Post by todddoyka on Dec 8, 2021 10:55:14 GMT -7
it could be either the brisket of the neck(years ago,my dad shot one in the brisket and it took me about 2 hours to find it and kill it) or it could be close to spine(i shot a big 8pt close to the spline, it alot for bled alot for 50-75 yards, then nothing. i never found my arrow but i seen the buck in muzzleloader season.
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Post by shootist---Gary on Dec 8, 2021 18:57:33 GMT -7
I never found 1 drop of blood from where it was standing, until I lost it's tracks in the woods.
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Post by todddoyka on Dec 9, 2021 10:40:01 GMT -7
did you find any hair?
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Post by shootist---Gary on Dec 9, 2021 17:36:30 GMT -7
No hair or blood. Deer went clear to the ground, front end first, then started trying to get up. I was in my tent blind, without much room to maneuver, with the rifle barrel resting on cross sticks. I was engaged in expelling the empty brass & reloading, when it got up on all fours, & at a fast walk entered the woods thru a small briar patch. I never saw which way it went, or found blood or tracks in the leaves on the ground. The woods mostly has good visibility, not much big vegetation, but lots of "rotted" saplings & limbs on the ground, so it's easy to look around & also to walk in. I will be back there on the 18th & 19th, then for muzzleloader season 2nd week in Jan. on Sat., Sun., Mon. & Tuesday.
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