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Post by thumbbuster45 on May 24, 2020 21:07:58 GMT -7
Hello, im new here. I mainly do big bore revolvers but lately ive been getting into bond arms derringers. Just picked up a new rough&rowdy 45colt/410 and a roughneck 38/357. Ive been shooting the 45 a bunch, anyone else here shoot and enjoy the bond arms derringers? Thinking about get another to stick either a 44spl barrel or a 10mm barrel on it.
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Post by Bullshop on May 25, 2020 7:11:04 GMT -7
I had one once I think it was the Texas Defender 45/410. I had two specialty loads for it. One was what I called a tent load and was intended for use against bears if one got on you while you were in a tent or sleeping bag where it would be about impossible to maneuver a larger gun. This load was put up in 454 Casull cases and loaded with our 400gn hammer head bullet. The load would bloody your thumb with every shot but that is still better than having your skull crushed in a brown bears jaws. The other load was for the same purpose but was loaded with three 45 caliber round balls put up in 460 S&W cases. The three ball load was a dual purpose load also intended for close range B G repellent. That Bond Arms is one stout little derringer.
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Post by missionary on May 25, 2020 9:20:46 GMT -7
Howdy thumbbuster and welcome ! Cannot write we have a big bore derringer. Just a lowly 9mm my wife tends to put in a nice little pocket easily accessable in a black purse. But we do have a smallish flintlock that with a caliber .60 RB or a bunch of swan shot will let you know you just touched off a handful.
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Post by Bullshop on May 26, 2020 17:00:17 GMT -7
I almost forgot to mention something else I learned about the Bond Arms derringer. On the model I had the Texas Defender there was no trigger guard. The very short throw solid trigger was set very close to the wide beefy frame and was difficult to pull in the conventional manner with the strong grip hand. The reason was that in such a conventional hold while pressing the trigger with the index finger of the grip hand you were also pressing against the frame which required a lot of finger pressure to get the gun to fire. This made it very hard to hold an aim with the gun. What I learned to do to get the gun to shoot more accurately was to hold the gun as I normally would for a right hand shooter but not use the index finger of my right hand to press the trigger. In the normal fashion the trigger finger would be horizontal across the trigger which is what caused the trigger control problem because with the normal trigger finger in the horizontal position it was also pressing on the frame on each side of the trigger. With the normal right hand hold I would lay the right index finger along side the barrel and with the left hand in the two hand grip I would use the index finger of the left hand held in a vertical position parallel with the trigger and press the trigger with the tip of the left index finger. This helped eliminate the finger pressing against the frame and made trigger control much easier. Once I figured out how to get a smooth lighter trigger squeeze I learned that for shots to about 50 feet the little derringer could be fired fairly accurately and then could be used to take small game out to about 50 feet. For this I liked the Lyman 452460 a 200gn SWC type bullet normally used in the 45 acp. The 452460 at about 700 fps in 45 Colt cases was surprisingly accurate from the little derringer and made it more of a dual purpose gun. I really liked the Bond Arms derringer but ended up trading it off toward a pick up truck I needed when the old one gave out. Well it didn't really give out but it was burning a lot of oil and not really worth rebuilding. I traded into a Dodge Dakota which I still have and like.
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Post by missionary on May 27, 2020 6:02:04 GMT -7
Good Morning That is the second time I have read using that type of "firing grip". Makes a lot of cense. The first was for reasonable accurate firing in the dark as we generally can point our trigger finger easily at a target in the dark. It does work.
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