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Post by missionary on May 3, 2020 15:56:23 GMT -7
Just a couple days ago Dan (Bullshop) showed us a picture in a thread of a rifle they refer to as "Ol Ugly". So that got my thinker activated and I though surely every shooter has some firearm that outshines all the rest having already fell victim to the "ugly stick" back along the trail somewhere. So putting my limited key jabbing to the test he are our's….    The revolver is a Colt New Service in 44 WCF made in 1903. No finish, pitted all over, rust covered bore and cylinders. Rotted grips were held on with a stove bolt. Front sight was cut I guess to be adjustable . Does work well for all the abuse it suffered. Made some new grips and added a filler. The Winchester Model 1892 also in 44 WCF is a SRC but the bore and muzzle was a mess. Some one decided it needed re-blued but did not plug the barrel. Most of the stamping was polished off. The muzzle diameter was near .438+ all wallowed out through poor cleaning methods. Stocks have poorly placed nails in an attempt to keep the wood together but still some loss. So me being a shooter first wacked the barrel back to 19 " hoping to get to good bore. Nope. So another inch was removed and now will hit what I can see at 50 yards. No fear hurting this one. About a year ago we decided to shorten the barrel to 16 1/8 inches. What a difference that made. Very easy to carry it with a one point clip on sling Accuracy was improved a little. |
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Post by Bullshop on May 3, 2020 17:15:20 GMT -7
I really like guns that your not afraid to use. Safe queens are neat to look at but guns were made to be used.
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Post by missionary on May 4, 2020 8:19:57 GMT -7
You bet-cha Brother Dan ! Both of these have rode the 2 wheelers with me up and down the mountains.
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Post by todddoyka on May 6, 2020 9:46:44 GMT -7
i have quite a few of them. 98 mauser(1944) in 8x57. when i was taking the trigger off and putting a dayton trigger on, i noticed that the stock was cracked(s) and the barrel channel goes off to the right. i have(on order) a wolverine american black walnut(grade a) stock with a left handed shooter and right hand action.  93 mauser(1926) in 7x57. i took off the old stock and i'll put on (on order) a wolverine apache gold laminate (right hand/right action) stock. the barrel is shot out, so i'll have to replace it. the dayton trigger group(i have) has to put on, but i'll give it to my gunsmith when he bends the bolt handle and d&t for a scope mount.  m94(1973) in 35/30. if you will note the black spots on the action, you will see rust forming from the sintered steel. i took 0000 steel wool on the rust and gs6 clp oil. i got it mostly off, but i "see it there." i should go to a cerakote applicator (https://www.crookedcreekarms.com/) to take it all off and go black cerakote, but...............  i have some small things that "needs" to be done, i'll get them............  eventually !!!!!! |
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Post by missionary on May 7, 2020 6:08:00 GMT -7
I will have to look up Wolverine stocks. That is one I have not seen.
I do like the receiver sights ! Have them or tang sights on all our regular use rifles up north.
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Post by todddoyka on May 7, 2020 11:57:27 GMT -7
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Post by missionary on May 8, 2020 6:15:52 GMT -7
Those are some nice stocks !! I first looked at the "Close outs". Near jabbed the Rem 788 stock.
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Post by Bullshop on May 15, 2020 9:22:59 GMT -7
It has been said that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Therefore I wish to submit a runner up as it were to old ugly mentioned by missionary earlier by far the most hideous in our collection so can only qualify for second place. The ugliness built into this rifle is beautiful in an ugly way. The true hidden beauty is the way it shoots. The outward beauty is in the quality of craftsmanship. With that I offer this most beautifully ugly bench rest rifle produced between the world wars. It is built on an 1918 Oberndorf action fit with set triggers. It utilizes a barrel harmonics control system that was popular at the time that though works as intended is quite hideous to behold. Another sore thumb it wears is the period Griffin & Howe side mount that is permanently attached to the receiver. The chambering is in 250 Savage also a popular choice for accuracy at the time since the chambering pre-dates most other BR cartridges. The barrel uses a 1/13" rifling twist rate that is neither fish nor foul since the original twist rate for the 250-3000 was 1/14" while the standard twist rate for most 25 caliber rifles is now 1/10" with the exception of the 25/35 at 8" and the 25/20 and 256 mag at 1/14" Anyway pretty or ugly I am undecided so will leave that up to you dear reader. Something I can attest to with certainty is that when used with bullets within the stability range of its 1/13" twist rate it can produce beautiful accuracy and that for me will trump all ugly. |
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Post by Bullshop on May 15, 2020 9:32:14 GMT -7
I still don't know howto add more than 3 pictures at a time - so here are 3 more |
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Post by Bullshop on May 15, 2020 9:32:50 GMT -7
nd yet one more  |
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Post by todddoyka on May 15, 2020 12:23:23 GMT -7
ya got me on the double trigger set!!!!!! beautiful rifle!!!!
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Post by Bullshop on May 15, 2020 13:20:58 GMT -7
The beauty is that if group ags were still now what they were then it would still be competitive. It shoots as good now as it did then. I am undecided on the harmonics dampener. It has four spring loaded detents each adjustable for spring load arranged in a circle around the barrel at the forend tip. To evenly adjust them will require an inch pound driver which I do not have. I just adjusted to an even feel and weather I got lucky or it matters not too much I don't know but it shoots awfully good as is. This is the type of thing developed and used by the likes of Phil Sharp and Ned Roberts in the very early days of bench rest shooting after we were well into the establishment of smokeless powder.
Bench rest guns then and now are not very eye appealing as they seem to be ungainly awkward looking and heavy things. The beauty though is in the groups they shoot and this one is still as young and alive and beautiful in that ragard as ever it was.
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Post by missionary on May 15, 2020 15:58:53 GMT -7
That has a nice looking hunk of wood !!!
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Post by Bullshop on May 15, 2020 16:39:15 GMT -7
The stock is a very heavy laminate. This rifle was made for competition way before synthetics came about. Even then though they were well aware of the warping issues caused by changes in humidity with solid natural wood stocks and tried to avoid it with laminated wood stocks. Not as pretty as swirly grain walnut but again the beauty lies in its function.
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Post by todddoyka on May 16, 2020 7:34:02 GMT -7
heck, i like wood and wooden laminates. i have 2 laminates(sapphire and royal jacardia laminates) on my tc encores. i bought an 93 mauser apache gold laminate and a 98 mauser american black walnut stock. i guess i'm a wood and blued steel guy. plastic on a gun makes me wanna throw up in my mouth a little bit. i've gotten rid of plastic guns, except my savage m112. that "thing" should go down the road, but my dad and my son like it. black plastic and the savage accutrigger(i consider it a piece of ....ah...crap) should never go together.
anyway, your rifle is beuatiful to me.
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Post by Junior on May 19, 2020 1:36:20 GMT -7
Mine would have the be my Ruger Vaquero 45 colt.
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Post by Bullshop on May 19, 2020 6:32:24 GMT -7
Tod stop calling my ugly entry beautiful. Your ruining my chances for most ugly entry. Come on man look at those hideous Frankenstein bolts sticking out of it, that is ugly!
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Post by todddoyka on May 19, 2020 7:54:58 GMT -7
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Post by Junior on May 19, 2020 12:41:06 GMT -7
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eventually 
