Post by Hombre on Dec 15, 2018 17:42:12 GMT -7
Opps, this probably shudda been in the Rifles topic.
I don't know how to move it there, so Dan, move it if you like, k'. thank you
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When they follow you home, sometimes ya just gotta keep 'em!!
A new member in the stable here is a very nice condition Werndl 1867/77 Jaeger infantry rifle with an excellent bore.
For details of the rifle, see the web video listed at bottom of article - easier than my trying to get good pictures here!
The M1867 Werndl–Holub was a single-shot breechloading rifle that the Austro-Hungarian army adopted in 1867.
In 1877 the military rechambered the Werndl for the bottleneck 11mm scharfe Patrone M.77 (11.15×58mmR) cartridge.
In spite of the Werndl being long obsolete by World War I, the Austro-Hungarian forces issued Werndl rifles to rear-echelon units to free up more modern rifles for use by front-line troops. 33 1/2" barrel n' weighing at 9 1/2 lbs. In service 1867–1918.
The Werndl-Holub M1867 was built around the breech loading mechanism designed by Werndl. This mechanism featured an easy to identify rotating drum action, which is allowed to rotate when the hammer is moved. When the hammer is pulled back, the drum can be rotated with the flat lever (located on the drum) to allow access to the rear of the barrel and breech to load a new cartridge.
It came with 180+ original 1880's era brass cases (someone had pulled the bullets, but they are still with their original Berdan primers, and containing gunky residue of the original black powder load inside). As a good friend often says: "$1.00 antique brass case; several hundred dollar rifle and irreplaceable body parts". Any opinion on using the original brass cases? They are Berdan primed, so getting proper primers would be a hassle.
1880's era brass cases tend to be on the brittle side. I am electing to use modern brass cases - formed/trimmed from .50-110 Winchester Starline cases. Buffalo Arms folks had some formed .50-110 cases and I've ordered some from a fella off of gunboards.com.
From information gathered, it's looking as though a .446 diameter bullet should suffice for use.
Dan, your listed RCBS - 11mm - 370 gr bullet: what diameter have you with this bullet? I'll use black powder loads, not paper patched.
In the video he uses a .451 diameter bullet. I've slugged the barrel and am getting .439 and .444, so a .446 should work.
By chance anyone here use the same rifle? If so, what are you loading it with?
Reloading: as the video also shows - sometimes the basics work just fine.
I don't know how to move it there, so Dan, move it if you like, k'. thank you
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When they follow you home, sometimes ya just gotta keep 'em!!
A new member in the stable here is a very nice condition Werndl 1867/77 Jaeger infantry rifle with an excellent bore.
For details of the rifle, see the web video listed at bottom of article - easier than my trying to get good pictures here!
The M1867 Werndl–Holub was a single-shot breechloading rifle that the Austro-Hungarian army adopted in 1867.
In 1877 the military rechambered the Werndl for the bottleneck 11mm scharfe Patrone M.77 (11.15×58mmR) cartridge.
In spite of the Werndl being long obsolete by World War I, the Austro-Hungarian forces issued Werndl rifles to rear-echelon units to free up more modern rifles for use by front-line troops. 33 1/2" barrel n' weighing at 9 1/2 lbs. In service 1867–1918.
The Werndl-Holub M1867 was built around the breech loading mechanism designed by Werndl. This mechanism featured an easy to identify rotating drum action, which is allowed to rotate when the hammer is moved. When the hammer is pulled back, the drum can be rotated with the flat lever (located on the drum) to allow access to the rear of the barrel and breech to load a new cartridge.
It came with 180+ original 1880's era brass cases (someone had pulled the bullets, but they are still with their original Berdan primers, and containing gunky residue of the original black powder load inside). As a good friend often says: "$1.00 antique brass case; several hundred dollar rifle and irreplaceable body parts". Any opinion on using the original brass cases? They are Berdan primed, so getting proper primers would be a hassle.
1880's era brass cases tend to be on the brittle side. I am electing to use modern brass cases - formed/trimmed from .50-110 Winchester Starline cases. Buffalo Arms folks had some formed .50-110 cases and I've ordered some from a fella off of gunboards.com.
From information gathered, it's looking as though a .446 diameter bullet should suffice for use.
Dan, your listed RCBS - 11mm - 370 gr bullet: what diameter have you with this bullet? I'll use black powder loads, not paper patched.
In the video he uses a .451 diameter bullet. I've slugged the barrel and am getting .439 and .444, so a .446 should work.
By chance anyone here use the same rifle? If so, what are you loading it with?
Reloading: as the video also shows - sometimes the basics work just fine.